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the Pro frame kit as in not the upcoming Ice 24"...but a Zoot Pro?! Sorry...I got a little lost there

the hitcher or lukes designs are working for me personally, the first one of each...all black and slightly simpler

i dont mean this in a bad way...but if you could scroll through a couple of pages on the new members forum and heck out the topics that seem relevant...it should give you a pretty good idea! the question is asked in one way or another repeatedly on a daily basis...and even with lots of more relevant details within the question, so much comes down to personal preference

I remember the day! october last year... actually deciding to learn the pedal kick, about 20mins on my trusty stinky to get 3/4 strung small ones together... i could already wheelie though as long as i liked and could do 4/5 backhops with the trusted endo to rear wheel! so really it wasnt a big step forward when i try to learn something though, i go at it over and over untill i can do it (to an extent) or have made enough progress that a break from it would benefit

nice video......though i maybe missed the indoor bit?!

all depends on the pain and the injury if its pain from anything other than a superficial injury you should seriously address it before deciding to get all alpha male and 'manning up'. some injuries can be pretty deceiving and can result in pretty long lasting damage if not rested....you can be as hard as you like in that situation and carry on riding, but most of us have lives off the bike that we'd like to carry on without issues! painkillers as fine as long as they dont allow you to damage yourself further. strapping/some sort of visual/sensual reminder of an injury is recommended in most cases...even in the weeks after the initial pain has died down. ibuprofen is especially helpfull as its an anti-inflamatory - swelling is reduced, reducing pain and actually reducing the risk of a repeated injury.

90mmx10 stem with 15mm of stackers with the inspired bars feels great

way to point out the obvious ?! reading the countless topics before, there is a general bias towards riser bars, especially as of late though as pointed out, OBM's comment is a personal preference...from someone who gets a chance to ride pretty much every bike available at the minute, as well as previous models, it carries a fair amount of weight

check out the for sale section, theres some great inspired deals going if you dont want to go brand new! i ride one, its great...never had a true trials bike, but its that fun i dont think i ever will

type "flat or riser bars" in the search on here.... i only found around 7 topics either identical or similar on the first of 4 pages maybe you can do a little better

I think youre right bikes from 100 - 200 really arent going to loose much value if after riding you decide its not for you...worst case scenario - you re-sell it on here and make a very small loss (£50 at most?!) you could almost see that money as how much youd spend to hire out a bike for that time! in my opinion, the only time where a a sale like that wouldnt be worth while is when the bike itself its close to giving up altogether and becoming worthless OR if the bike is that bad, it could potentially put you off trials. the latter should become clearer in time as you get to know the market

+2 im not sure what the original attitude was....but the interest seems to be pretty big up here, with even the neds (chavs) stopping and taking interest, taking pictures and being pretty cool with it in general we were even at the catherdral playing about and two police came along and couldnt have been cooler abut it...just asked us to try staying off the pavements, but they were happy for us to carry on. at times a few even stop to watch and ask questions only bad experience is with the priest in the church, and one passer by who felt we were being disrespectful to christianity....who finished off his rant with a pretty aggressive threat of violence if he were to see us again!

hi there irishman... im not sure about shops in your area that stock trials bikes...at a guess, 90% of all new trials related gear is bought from tartybikes online?! thats perhaps another point to mention within this thread to the new guys.I know that all of the local bike shops (bar an obvious one) in edinburgh are not that informed on trials products, and none of them stock the bikes aswell as the above, it does also have some pretty nifty video guides that could help with what you are looking for with some basic pros and cons for all the bike sizes. it'll also give you a good idea about the major trials ranges available. also...check out some of the videos posted on here! you may find yourself drawn towards a particular style? as for trying out the bikes to try and figure out what youd like, as mentioned, why not just meet up with the london riders on here!? doesnt matter if you have a bike yet....im sure they'll be happy to help

enjoyed that! liked the shot on the rock with the bay in the backround

unless shes an amputee you cant get replacement parts! edit* trials is very much like making love to a beautiful women... the beginnners, go for it...ride hard and messy and try not to finish too early the more experienced know how to tap that ass, and enjoy playing about and taking thier time after getting up... the pros though dont need to....straight to rear....easy as, leaving everyone else wondering how the hell did he manage that

thanks rupin, i found that very helpful i can see the argument for an against buying a better bike first (or vice versa and building up). i personally went down the route of getting a high end spec and pretty much as good a setup you can get without getting ridiculous. the bike rides very well and im safe in the knowledge that it can withstand a decent amount of abuse (aswell as just the nice feeling of having a nice bike!) a few other points i personally feel would be useful for a beginner to know when starting out and getting a new bike: 1. the brakes! especially starting off...the need to have confidence in your brake is imperative. as soon as youre comfortable that your rear wheel (or front) wont slip, your riding will progress huge amounts. aftermarket pads are a must, a good grind (in my opinion) and even an aftermarket lever (again in my opinion if using the hs33). its well worth budgeting this into your new build if you can afford it. 2. the heads up that unlike other bikes you may buy, the frame and parts are disposable (this took a few weeks for me!). it looks great new out the box, unscratched and shiney...but its unrealistic for a beginner to keep it that way (and progress) your cranks and bashring will soon look war torn...the frame will get scratches/dents and in time perhaps break. im not saying that you shouldnt care about your bike, but the sooner you loose the worry behind perhaps breaking it, the quicker you'll progress and more importantly, the more enjoyable riding will be. 3. with reguards to 2....with this being the case, keep in mind your budget and what you can realistically afford as and when things do break.

haha no no...i mean with a runup, a pretty slow one at that though ive been doing the odd rolling pedalup, or attempt at a rolling gap but it hasnt yet 'clicked' if you get what i mean, despite reading up on them and watching vids etc....keep meaning to work on them for a few lines around my area, maybe tomorrow

hope you dont mind me sitting in on this topic....im in a similar situation with pedal ups, only about 2ft or so...i usually bunny hop up everything (up to 3 - 4ft at a guess) i was wondering if i should start working on pedal ups to get higher in the long run, or if bunny hops can get you pretty much as high ? if one skill helps the other etc....

my god...i had to give up, please add a few full stops (more than 2!) and some spacing between paragraphs! cheers its better than it was anyway

***STICKY!!!*** Im not sure how relevant an explanation of geometries is in a thread like this, it was definately something that baffled me (and still does to be honest!). As a newcomer to this site and trials in general, seeing so many questions asking for angles/bb height etc did seem to make bike choice pretty complicated. It seems like this factor is hugely important for alot of people, and could perhaps overwhelm and confuse other newcomers when considering buying a new bike. It would have been for me if the inspired didnt exist and i had to consider such things! that is, if anyone feels a small explanation on this area and the pros/cons of various geometries could help out the thread.... I think it would be pretty helpful to point out to new members in this situation that this site may be the best way to meet other trials riders. I wouldnt be surprised if 90% of known riders were either on this site, or associated with a member on this site. Finding local riders and actually getting a chance to ride a few different bikes could prove more beneficial than reading anything on here or elsewhere! It seems to be a pretty friendly nationwide community, and everyone im sure would be more than happy to help you (whoevers reading this) out

lets see a video!! well done, if youre wearing a helmet and you still feel in relative control...keep it up

Your local bike shop should have them....they'll know what youre after, its not a trials specific item

in all honesty i was surprised too when i heard it. like bank charges for example, they are pretty unjustified (from what i know) and its alot of money for something small, but it costs that much to us reguardless but then again, from semi recent news about nhs costs...look at how much just a simple operation costs alone, 20-30k for a 8-12hr operation i think? granted, that was on the more expensive side, but its a huge amount. looking at the price of drugs (to the nhs, not us), outside services, medical treatments and equipment and the prices escalate very quickly. i only use that as a basic analogy as it pretty much goes hand in hand with anyone whos gone through serious injury apologies if ive come across as blunt to yourself inparticular (no apologies to the arses though) but it is something i have strong emotions attatched with, as id have hoped anyone who had lost a friend/relative in an RTC (thankfully i have not). there have not been any digs towards the original poster, only a +1. i dont think he's put the pics up for any kudos for himself...and from the look of them, its very likely he'll learn from it.