Sounds pretty serious Simon, but nice that it turned out good. Pretty curious but it's your choice to keep it for yourself I guess Well, since i'm pretty bad with meeting new girls and stuff, I've been meeting up with people I've met through chat. Might seem a bit desperate, but I have a slight case of social phobia so it's a comfortable way for me. Anyway, I went to an other city to meet up with a girl, knew her for 2.5 years on msn, very nice and always was there for me when I was having a hard time. She's 16 now and very hot (Fat Pants can confirm this ). First I had to wait for her for an hour, but since I'm a nice guy I didn't get angry She took a friend with her since she was pretty scared about meeting me. We had an ok day, but I was so f**king quiet the whole time, she was just chatting with her friend the whole time and I didn't know what to say =/ So I wanted to kinda go for it and meet up a second time, that was yesterday. She took an other friend with her, I already had some conversations with her and were are really on the same line about stuff. Anyway, meet up with her and the friend, and it was exactly the same, quiet the whole time again. They really got a shitty impression of me now Her friend is very nice, not really into her anything, but definatly want to get to know her better. They want to go to the cinema with me next week, but I think thats just cause they pity me. Meh, not really asking for solutions since that is simple; just need to open up a bit. Wanted to get it off my chest somewhere