JJ_ONeill Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Just need a bit of help really guys - went into my local bike store yesterday and got an Onza Comp wheelset, and changed to a front hydraulic rim brake instead of cable disc. Since the new wheels are so smooth the brakes don't work AT ALL in the wet, so I'm thinking I'll get them ground (my rear magura needs a change of pads anyways), but both slip quite badly in the dry as well which is fairly unusual :/ Maybe I'm being thick and just need a change of pads and a wheel grind but could it have anything to do with the setup? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 What pads are you using? If you're using magura blacks or reds you may aswell use your tongue on the rim rather than them. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsbeginner Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 maybe a bleed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbia Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 What pads are you using? If you're using magura blacks or reds you may aswell use your tongue on the rim rather than them. I'm using new blacks on a smooth rim on my onza tbird and with my 14stone bouncing about on them they hold fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 I'm using new blacks on a smooth rim on my onza tbird and with my 14stone bouncing about on them they hold fine Absolute bullshit.Either you can't ride or your definition of "fine" is very different to mine 140 miles away 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_Trials Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Absolute bullshit. your definition of "fine" is very different to mine 140 miles away True, I used to think my brakes were the shit until I found out they were shit, not the shit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt24. Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Granted aftermarket pads are better than blacks, however do not disregard the fact if you actually bother to really set up a magura properly with a good booster, spotlessly clean rim blacks will still work well with maintenance..... What do you think we did before all the aftermarket pads??????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbia Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Absolute bullshit. Either you can't ride or your definition of "fine" is very different to mine 140 miles away Probably can't ride. i know I'm no pro as I'm still trying to get pedal hops but they hold fine for me. if anything they hold better than my adamant a1 running hs33 greens on an old grind with a bigger massively stiffer booster end of the day its all opinions. i can run around all day shouting the sun shines out of my ass. just because i might be mad enough to do it doesn't mean its true you might think its bull and that it shines out your ass. makes no difference really. blacks and a smooth rim work for me that's my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 When I used to ride blacks were shit, and I was utterly rubbish at trials. I think my crowning glory was winning the Intermediate route at a YMSA comp in the MOD class. Against 2 other riders... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsieurMonkey Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Probably can't ride. i know I'm no pro as I'm still trying to get pedal hops but they hold fine for me. if anything they hold better than my adamant a1 running hs33 greens on an old grind with a bigger massively stiffer booster end of the day its all opinions. i can run around all day shouting the sun shines out of my ass. just because i might be mad enough to do it doesn't mean its true you might think its bull and that it shines out your ass. makes no difference really. blacks and a smooth rim work for me that's my opinion The only problem with that is, I walk in and say, there's the sun in the sky. Which is a fact. That beats opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 blacks and a smooth rim work for me that's my opinion They won't always. When you swap to better pads you will be blown away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) Nothing wrong with something hard and black pushing against your rim every now and again. I actually feel a bit sick just writing that, just for the record. Edited February 9, 2012 by JD™ 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradJohnson Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Use a little tar on your rims, that will make the brakes work a lot better. (But a lot noisier.) But i do recommend getting a grind and some new pads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 i run red maguras.works,but its fast food for the rim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh barker Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) magura blacks pffffff tried on a smooth rim, then with tar, then on a grind, would not hold come back and give a review when you tested some real pads like tnn lgm or rockman cnc pads standard magura pads are utter s*** in my opinion Edited February 10, 2012 by josh barker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbia Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 Ok my blacks slipped last night lol roll on the “told you so“ comments end of the day I'm a noob and am just commenting from my experiance so far and untill last night blacks had held fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TROYston Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 I did actually find that magura koolstops and blacks worked fine with a massively harsh grind on a DX rim and the old monty tar spray. But, the tar became a nightmare and they didnt want to let go. But if you cant afford new pads, mid ride or whatnot, this is a tempery fix. But then moved to Echo pads. and they are so much better, just because no tar was needed and less of a harsh grind, and a better rim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtis G Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 This means its time to save up and get some tnn LGM's 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbia Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 I think all saving is out the window at the minute but my way of thinking is that now i have found the limit of the blacks i must be improving as they were easily holding where i wanted when i wanted before so i must be pushing what they are capable of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dododo1 Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 if you get new pads, They genrally tell you in the specs what rims they work well with!! or again maybe a bleed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dododo1 Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 try phat pad, I've never had a problem with them on a ground rim! and there supposed to be just as good on a smooth one too. www.phatworks.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alistair14 Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 try phat pad, I've never had a problem with them on a ground rim! and there supposed to be just as good on a smooth one too. www.phatworks.co.uk worst pads ever .. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh barker Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 im using genuine coustellier pads that i ggot off jack meek, they are wickidly insane on a light grind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 im using genuine coustellier pads that i ggot off jack meek, they are wickidly insane on a light grind! Same mate, put them on tonight on a dead grind pretty much - spent like 2 mins setting them up as we were gearing to go. And they were amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_trials Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 A nice sharp light/medium grind will help alot and some heatsink or TNN pads will make it a million times better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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