Julius Czar Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Right, got a key skills maths thing for my apprentice course, I was told to make a survey with ten choices and ask people their opinions, and I figured as I have hundreds of people with the same (and if not more) knowledge and experience of the trials industry right here at my fingertips I should set up a poll here to get good and valuable opinions from the lovely people here at TF. Basically just pick a brand based on the frames, your vote can be down to anything, your experiences, or even what you've heard about the products, or just your opinion on the look of the line of frames that your chosen brand has out at the moment. All data is good data, and obviously the more the better, it'll make it more accurate when making averages etc. your opinions will be appreciated greatly. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 I am a little bias but Inspired easily have every other company beaten when it comes to quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Czar Posted March 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 I am a little bias but Inspired easily have every other company beaten when it comes to quality. Very true, I've only ever seen one of they're frames cracked, and that was one of the first versions of the fourplay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE-0 Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 The inspired frames will attract a different audience since the other brands are aimed at traditional trials frames. My vote is for Echo...the pure number of people on them at the moment really says it all. They're frames are great value, light weight, solid and sleek in design. In terms of higher-end bikes, Rockman and Koxx have produced some awesome bikes, plus the new Onza range looks to be up there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 The inspired frames will attract a different audience since the other brands are aimed at traditional trials frames. My vote is for Echo...the pure number of people on them at the moment really says it all. They're frames are great value, light weight, solid and sleek in design. Completely agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence--Trials Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 I voted for inspired purely because people rarely have problems with their frames and products unlike some other brands such as speedrace welding 4bolt mounts in the wrong place, ( i know they're not up there just an example.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 I'm going to say Ozonys and Bonz. Big fan of their parts at the moment. They all seem to have this quality feel to them that you just don't get from Asian brands. Mind you, Trialtech has that feel too but the biggest downfall for TT in my opinion are the wheels. I want hubs with wide flanges, rims with proper spoke offset to make a nice fat and stiff wheel. Plus Bonz stuff is generally really light and holds up quite well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skorp Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 I'm going to say Ozonys and Bonz. Big fan of their parts at the moment. They all seem to have this quality feel to them that you just don't get from Asian brands. Mind you, Trialtech has that feel too but the biggest downfall for TT in my opinion are the wheels. I want hubs with wide flanges, rims with proper spoke offset to make a nice fat and stiff wheel. Plus Bonz stuff is generally really light and holds up quite well. Same. Feel that Ozonys/Bonz have the best range out there today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 rims with proper spoke offset to make a nice fat and stiff wheel. Actually, the spoke offset reduces the stiffness of the wheel, as there is less triangulation. Trialtech SL hubs will own when they are out (been tested for at least 3 years now). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_! Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 I vote for echo Is inspired a trial bike brand? Love it though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Is inspired a trial bike brand? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Actually, the spoke offset reduces the stiffness of the wheel, as there is less triangulation. Trialtech SL hubs will own when they are out (been tested for at least 3 years now). Is spoke offset on a rim the ones with holes that basically aren't down the centre line of the rim ? If so (assuming the angle of the nipple wouldn't balls things up) would lacing it so that the spokes crossed near the rim make a stronger wheel ? Oh and inspired clearly make the most bestest and interesting frames. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Is spoke offset on a rim the ones with holes that basically aren't down the centre line of the rim ? If so (assuming the angle of the nipple wouldn't balls things up) would lacing it so that the spokes crossed near the rim make a stronger wheel ? Yes and yes. I think a BMX company did a rim like this at one point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.KYDD Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Actually, the spoke offset reduces the stiffness of the wheel, as there is less triangulation. So why do companies bother doing it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Koxx thought it was a good idea, so (nearly) everyone copies without even bothering to work out why or if it's even a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TROYston Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Bless Neon and Monty with no votes at the time of this post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Love the quality of Koxx, Rockman and Ozonys frames. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Bless Neon and Monty with no votes at the time of this post. I think monty's designs are too outdated. Proper boring frames. atm anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Actually, the spoke offset reduces the stiffness of the wheel, as there is less triangulation. Trialtech SL hubs will own when they are out (been tested for at least 3 years now). May I disagree? Perhaps the stiffness sideways will be slightly worse but the overall stability of the rim should be a lot better. It means the rim gets more support throughout it's width rather than just being held together in the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 May I disagree? Perhaps the stiffness sideways will be slightly worse but the overall stability of the rim should be a lot better. It means the rim gets more support throughout it's width rather than just being held together in the middle. May I disagree?! Spokes are just wire and are only any good in tension. What you are describing would require the spokes at the bottom of the wheel to resist the rim from deforming under compression, which they're really not any good at. In my mind the rim must be self supporting in width and the spokes are there to do two things- firstly to keep the rim round in profile (by maintaining an even tension around the circumference) and secondly to resist side to side motion (by utilisation of the spoke triangulation). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Gibson Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 I think monty's designs are too outdated. Proper boring frames. atm anyway. but there the only ones experimenting with carbon frames correct? (IMO) they are always over priced, but when I was at shipley the other week, and there was LOADS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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