customrider-Rhys Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 I use radial one side on the front wheel with a 180mm hope disc fitted on the 3x side. Seems fine to me. I build wheels and will have time to check spokes and true the wheel if it ever needs it. Front wheel is viz rim on onza disc hub, 3 months old, has had loads of learning to front and drops upto 5 foot not really relevant to the rear wheel though is it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezmtber Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 Landing hard enough to front to make a 180 trialzone slip is close to the same force and on a thin rim with thin Tyre. No side loads like the rear would take. I am no to keen on the radial rear. I think a mod may be ok but a stock or 24 would be a bit risky with radial. Really it depends how hard you ride it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny00135 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) I just got fraped on a forum -.- Edited March 26, 2013 by Danny00135 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazykid009 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) I've been running 1x disc side, radial non disc side on the front, and 2x both sides on the rear on my DH and 4x bikes for about a year now, with no problems whatsoever... Never even trued them either... Have also run fully radial wheels for trials with disc brake front and magura rear.. The strength of a wheel is mainly in a wheel build, so bear that in mind. Edited March 26, 2013 by krazykid009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aener Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 If you're fat/heavy, radial can also exert a lot more pressure on the rim. Enough that it can be the difference between a cracked rim and a very strong wheel. I've had issues with 1x, too. 2x seems to be alright so far (couldn't get hold of the right length spokes), but if you don't need to, why take the risk for the sake of (I don't know how many so it's a pure guess) 8 grams? I'd go 4, 5 or 6x if the hub didn't get in the way 3x seems to be sufficient for me to not crack rims though. 3x3x4lyf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradJohnson Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 If you're fat/heavy, radial can also exert a lot more pressure on the rim. Enough that it can be the difference between a cracked rim and a very strong wheel. I've had issues with 1x, too. 2x seems to be alright so far (couldn't get hold of the right length spokes), but if you don't need to, why take the risk for the sake of (I don't know how many so it's a pure guess) 8 grams? I'd go 4, 5 or 6x if the hub didn't get in the way 3x seems to be sufficient for me to not crack rims though. 3x3x4lyf. I guess anything less than 3X would be assisted suicide for you Flipp Those sideway gaps are brutal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planet x alan Posted March 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 If you're fat/heavy, radial can also exert a lot more pressure on the rim. Enough that it can be the difference between a cracked rim and a very strong wheel. I've had issues with 1x, too. 2x seems to be alright so far (couldn't get hold of the right length spokes), but if you don't need to, why take the risk for the sake of (I don't know how many so it's a pure guess) 8 grams? I'd go 4, 5 or 6x if the hub didn't get in the way 3x seems to be sufficient for me to not crack rims though. 3x3x4lyf. That's the sorta info I was looking for , I wasn't really wanting to do it to save a bit of weight was just more aesthetics but from your explanation I think I'll stick with the good old tried and tested 3x pattern! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 Landing hard enough to front to make a 180 trialzone slip is close to the same force and on a thin rim with thin Tyre. No side loads like the rear would take. I am no to keen on the radial rear. I think a mod may be ok but a stock or 24 would be a bit risky with radial. Really it depends how hard you ride it Really?! It's not the same at all is it? I know you work in a bike shop blah blah blah, but think about it. It is not going to experience anything like the same loads and forces as a rear wheel; hence why people run narrower rims, narrower tyres and different lacing patterns up front. To the Topic Starter: Radial pattern on a rear wheel is not a good idea, as far as I remember a radial laced wheel is better at handling in line forces that lateral and a 3x pattern is much better at handling lateral forces, but not quite as good at dealing with in line. Think of the side loads you put a rear wheel through when landing gaps etc. at angles, a radial built wheel just wouldn't handle it as well. It would go out of true more frequently and it would be more prone to folding. There are just to many drawbacks to the idea and I really don't think it would be worth the hassle you'd potentially encounter in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockman Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 I've always had issues with them losing tension quicker aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny00135 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 I´m confused, never used spoon or roll it like that before peeling, I suck at oranges. Back to the off topic stuff again.. But that shit works!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 That is semi-impressive 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant wildman Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Radial spoke pattern helps with centrifugal rolling of a wheel but has no advantage to trials wheels other than a possible weight saving . Running a crossed spoke lacing pattern you are essentially making the hub flange larger making the wheel stiffer and stronger. That's my two cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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