inthesystem Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 My thoughts exactly. How quicky do you reckon you could snap one? one dropgap, im certain 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalseProphecy Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 Like a fold up bike ASWELL!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burglarboycie Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 Who needs brakes Damn!!!!! That's a good video!! Never seen such good brakeless riding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoox Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) This Crossbow design looks cool but is very poor, and will naturally will be weaker than a traditional frame design, which is uses trusses to maximize strength and stiffness. Anyone who's studied a bit of mechanics will tell you that. Edited July 20, 2013 by Scoox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perez Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 (edited) Well, in the FB page it says is a flexy frame.. Would love to try one! Xavi send me a frame, im 90kg and from Portugal. Edited July 21, 2013 by Perez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filo Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 I'd like to know the weights and riding abilities of the test riders. You need some one who rides big, is big and not smooth. Then you will know if the frame is strong enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dngr2self Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 Send one to Damon. I'm sure he'd come out of retirement for half an hour to test one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_SPAWN Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 I think your asking too much for the design, you seem like you just want to brake it to say "look its shit I broke it".. yet if anyone brakes a koxx "no no, its a "pure comp" frame"... The bike looks great, and probably isn't designed for Damon to jump on, or anyone over X Kg. I see it being suited to light riders <= 75kg If your too fat for it then dont buy one , When you buy anything you decide if its suitable for you. Dosent make it bad if its not suited to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dngr2self Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 I think your asking too much for the design, you seem like you just want to brake it to say "look its shit I broke it".. yet if anyone brakes a koxx "no no, its a "pure comp" frame"... The bike looks great, and probably isn't designed for Damon to jump on, or anyone over X Kg. I see it being suited to light riders <= 75kg If your too fat for it then dont buy one , When you buy anything you decide if its suitable for you. Dosent make it bad if its not suited to you. The company actually commented though and claimed it was suitable for people of all sizes and abilities. If they make claims like that then people will call them out on it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulotrialsrider Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 I still think its good - the more companies getting involved in trials the better - surely? I know claims come out that maybe are a bit silly - and watching some of the huge stuff from Damon - i can't see this frame being his choice - but for comp riding or such it may help! I would assume more companies bringing frames and kit out would help the cost side of things being driven down. I love the design, big interest as to see how it fares! Good Luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towler Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 My eyes are bleeding 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 Riding comps is just as hard on your bikes as riding street. I dont get why people think that this frame "would last longer riding comps". Ive scraped my bike down rocks a lot more than walls tryng to get up them. Im sure I have my bike in a hook position a lot more in comps than on street, putting way more stress on a frame. Comps are a lot harsher on parts in general in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkubi Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 But why not carbon ? Especially if mission is spring-effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_SPAWN Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 Naa they dont mean it will last longer in a competition. They mean "its a comp frame, therfore its light and isnt supposed to last a long time" thats what I read from it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclip Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 ^ I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 Yup- comp frames designed to last one season as a comp only bike with another bike being used for 'training'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusevelt Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 Think it is back to the drawing board after this test ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Leech Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 Think it is back to the drawing board after this test ride. Why back to the drawing board? The frame was designed to flex like that, hence them calling it the first flex-frame in trials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geniuus Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 Nowt wrong with a bit of cushion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 (edited) in my apprenticeship there was a nice example from my teacher in material sciences: we had sheets and tubes from alu,ti and crmo and were told to bend them to a certain ammount(there was a test apparatus for that on which you could adjust the bend). alu lost the battle with three times less the load intervals than crmo(same diameters and wallthicknesses),ti won(surprise) i think it makes no sense to build a frame thats supposed to flex from a material that is starting to become brittle from the first load induction onwards... wasnt aimed on your post,josh.just my opinion about the crossbow idea Edited August 24, 2013 by FamilyBiker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Leech Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 in my apprenticeship there was a nice example from my teacher in material sciences: we had sheets and tubes from alu,ti and crmo and were told to bend them to a certain ammount(there was a test apparatus for that on which you could adjust the bend). alu lost the battle with three times less the load intervals than crmo(same diameters and wallthicknesses),ti won(surprise) i think it makes no sense to build a frame thats supposed to flex from a material that is starting to become brittle from the first load induction onwards... wasnt aimed on your post,josh.just my opinion about the crossbow idea Even if it was aimed at my post, I would of agreed with you . Not too sure on the whole concept, but I do like the overall look of the frame. If he kept it like that but used a standard rear end, I think it'd look awesome, especially with the front triangle idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 (edited) why wouldnt jaf try that idea in a no-cheese version,i´d be looking forward to seeing it?! edit:especially because the normal rear triangle would make a rim brake setup possible,one of the big downsides of the crossbow Edited August 24, 2013 by FamilyBiker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 A little bit of flex will aid a decent level rider, but this crossbow design is flawed. It lends itself to bending and snapping at the bb, no matter how many gussets there are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HippY Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 I like it! it seems like a good idea, for example for comp riders it could be strange to ride them, but it can be good as well someone mentioned that they state everyone can ride it, so Damon should brake it in 5 minutes It is marketing. There is only a few people who rides like Damon, but there are loads of not pro riders. its only marketing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Dunstan Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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