JamieWilliams Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Ordered. Surely these brakes should work best with the rotors that came with them. Honestly don't know, But I would recommend putting new pads with a new rotor and bed them in with a big hill and water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclip Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 I would get those Help!!!!!! pads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 for me that sounds like the pads went "glassy"(dont know how you brits call it) just take some 360 grit sandpaper and sand pads and rotors matte,then bed it in again. you can confirm this checking the contact surface of the pads,shiny is bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 I would get those Help!!!!!! pads. I decided against those as they would probably shout help everytime I brake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Target Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 The new SRAM's RS/RSC Guide are new hydraulics, and like the saints, have 4 pistons. Has anyone heard of it being used for trials? I think 4 pistons is overkill for trials because of big weight. The only advantage is a better modulation and cooling. I really love my Avid ( = SRAM) Elixir R with 2 pistons, it has been working fine in trials since 2009! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Surely these brakes should work best with the rotors that came with them. Due to the depth of braking surface some pads require you'll sometimes find that the manufacturer's rotor will tend to be a bit more suitable, but for the majority of normal brakes the rotors supplied with the brake aren't necessarily the best. Having used a bunch of different types of rotors there are some that are significantly better than others, so switching around is usually for the best rather than persevering with the supplied rotors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 I found that a slightly wavy rotor helps keep the pads unglazed. The uneven shape works like a scraper if you will. I use aztec rotors on the mtb and they perform just fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Sounds like BS to me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 A serious amount of black gunk was on discs, pads and calipers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) now if that isnt glazed , nor bedded in properly Edited November 20, 2014 by FamilyBiker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Cleaned Now to try bed in properly, to water or not to water that is the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 What was your method for cleaning them dude? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Isopropyl alcohol, to wipe discs, supposedly best stuff evaporates with no residue. Lightly sanded discs on a flat surface, with a sanding block and 200 grit, I think wet and dry. I them washed discs with fairy and hot water, rinsed really well. I also sanded pad surface, until it was like new, then left them all on radiator to dry. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezmtber Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Do you ride a bit of dh on the trials bike ? Those pads look quite shot, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) Downhill, that was about an hour's not riding much, indoors aswell. It does look like a shit compound, like you could pick it off round the edges. Edited November 21, 2014 by Dman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 I have not ridden the bike yet should I bed in with original pads or these new sintered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 sintered 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 I also got new Rt66 rotors in 203mm, hope mounts, and a few new pairs of pads for the saints. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dngr2self Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Personally I wouldn't use water to bed them in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) Just spent 30 mins in a multistorey carpark (it's raining) bedding them in. The new sintered pads feel miles better, totally silent (for now) modulation on these is really good. Nothing like any other avid I have tried, pad rock is non existant aswell which is good. Forgot to add dry bedding in, no water. Edited November 21, 2014 by Dman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Just in from a 5 hour ride at inIndoor spot and the brakes are now performing as they should. Not a sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) Been running these for just over 2 weeks now and I am really pleased, good power and modulation, lever feel is great, lots of adjustment, standard pads were either crap or I ruined them, the uberbike sintered are great completely changed this brake, not slipped once. Main issue with my saints was pad rock, it was bad and annoying, these brakes have no pad rock at all. Overall I'm impressed, nothing like old avids imo. Edited December 9, 2014 by Dman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 The standard pads I had with mine were complete crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclip Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 I wouldn't have many concerns going from the m810 saint to one of these, Karls brake felt perfect the lever feel and position's are great. I would be slightly weary of the calipers as they're quite small (for looks) compared to the Shimano's and potentially they could be weak but I'd still go with the risk. by the time I need to buy a new brake Karl will have had these for a long enough amount of time for me to know if I still want one. The clamp idea is weird though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMK Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) Was sick of my noisy, squealing, pad rocking saints, so here we are, was going to try magura mt7 but got advised against them. P1030709.JPG P1030717.JPG P1030720.JPG From the photos, I'm guessing these are the RSC model in Black. Sounds like you settled on sintered metal pads. Looks like the new SRAM discs also. The caliper mount, is that SRAM or by the looks something much more made by someone else. Any other changes and what is your final decision, they work well or not as expected? PK Edited January 30, 2015 by PMK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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