bionicman Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 I like the both of these frames but i am stuck between what one is better, any help, what is the better frame? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GyTrials Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 hi fi has a very high bottom bracket, good on back wheel etc.zeniths bb not so high but also good on back wheel but much easier to tap etc and a lot cheaper lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Kearns Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Ridden a Zenith and dent like it at all. Never rode a Hifi but if i had to choose it would be the hifi.Danny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 100% sure you should get the zenith.the hifis are disgusting cramped and weird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gu_lew Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 ive only been on the zenith but it was a very nice ride good on the backwheel and light for zenith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mini-yanni Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 zenith all the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(chief) Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 zenith because the echo hifi bb is way to high there so horible to ride.chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoNnY__Mc Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Ridden a Zenith and dent like it at all. Never rode a Hifi but if i had to choose it would be the hifi.Danny.dont listen to him... danny you rode my bike when it was feeling shite, if i remember rightly the brake was awful and probably a few other things... and you cant say you would rather have a frame which you have never rode both ride nice, i would rather have the zenith because i ride one... all depends on the set up and components... i have used a mad high rise and long stem which makes it beast for taps, and iv used an echo low stem which rides better for gaps... which i thinks good that you can use either one and it will make it ride differently... although you dont really want two stems (i just happen to)... so ignore all of that and buy a stem thats somewhere inbetween maybe i think the wheel base is pretty similar (only differs by 10mm????) but the bb rise on the hifi makes it feel shorter... the zenith feels just right for me and i like how it is very rigid/stable on the back wheel.if thats helped Jonny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghetto Rider Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 (edited) Ridden a Zenith and dent like it at all. Never rode a Hifi but if i had to choose it would be the hifi.Danny.Yeah because that really makes sense... Zenith all the way, Echo's are milked to hi buggery!EdiT - I have a zenith and it's lush! Edited April 26, 2007 by Ghetto Rider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 Ridden a Zenith and dent like it at all. Never rode a Hifi but if i had to choose it would be the hifi.Danny.Ha ha, dickhead Your the only person to recommend the hi-fi, and the only person not to have ridden one. I guess that makes it clear how good the hi-fi's are Yeha, hi-fi's are shit, they feel cramped, the chainstays are too short for the amount of bb rise and the whole bike generally feels unbalanced. WASTE OF MONEY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeoneNew Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 Yeha, hi-fi's are shit, they feel cramped, the chainstays are too short for the amount of bb rise and the whole bike generally feels unbalanced. WASTE OF MONEY!That sounds about right to me I've ridden both (own a zenith, which might make me biased) but the hifi was good sat onthe bacwheel but felt all twitchy and cramped as if i was on a mod not my cuppa tea really! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 From the official T-F statement page:25539. High-BB frames are gay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dozydame Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 both crap, apart from the echo hifi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boswell Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 both crap, apart from the echo hifithere's only 2 options? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishayton Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 every trials frame in the world > echo hifithe zenith looks cool and geo sounds nice. echo controls are great frames, as are the 07 pitbulls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 I like my Echo Hifi But whatever... Clearly everyone is the same shape, size and has the same riding styles and preferences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 I like my Echo Hifi But whatever... Clearly everyone is the same shape, size and has the same riding styles and preferences. ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo_rider_01 Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 Yeah defentally go for the zona Hi-fi's are to cramped and the bb rise feels weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 ..... May not work for you (or anyone else on here... I wonder how many have actually OWNED one... ) but it works for me.Oh and some bloke called Graham Wilhelm who is just some top US rider, but i guess he knows less about trials bikes than some people on a forum.Like i say, everyone likes exactly the same things in life so i'd get a Zenith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghetto Rider Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 both crap, apart from the echo hifihaha! Loser - why do so many people not read what is being said then come back with the most ridiculous statement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 May not work for you (or anyone else on here... I wonder how many have actually OWNED one... ) but it works for me.Oh and some bloke called Graham Wilhelm who is just some top US rider, but i guess he knows less about trials bikes than some people on a forum.Like i say, everyone likes exactly the same things in life so i'd get a Zenith.My mate boumsong had one, to say i had a go on it was an understatement. Went riding with him loads and it was practically a second bike as we always play on each others. I never got used to it, and it was awful to ride. It flicked onto the back wheel to quickly, the cockpit area on it was far too short and the only move it felt alright at was sidehops. It gapped horribly, it was a physical struggle to stop it from looping. Static ups were very hard indeed, and taps were nearly impossible, the bike just wanted to through you off the back.Sorry, but i think its a valid point, and while theres obviously going to be a few exceptions (opinion wise), the hi-fi's are generally regarded as one of the worst riding frames ever.Where as the zenith has a much more sensible bb height, the chainstays match the bb heigh well and the cockpit on it is longer than the hi-fi so it feels much easier on the back wheel. It also gaps better, sidehops easily enough and its pretty damn easy to tap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lankyri Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 may i ask for the change? you seem to ride the bionic really nice and smooth as well you was the other day in rayliegh i road mr joe's zenith a few weeks back ok it road really nice and that but i would get the echo just because no one has it around here, thats why i didnt go for the control cos everyone has one and i dont actually no anyone who rides a ninja and all that crap about it wont ride nice you think wrong mateys considering my bike weighs around the same as a monty ti no joke maybe a bit lighter as i just got a new rim and that go for the echo mayte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghetto Rider Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 I'll say it again and no more = Zenith all the way my son! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLeacock™ Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 I like the both of these frames but i am stuck between what one is better, any help, what is the better frame? humm tricky but i say hi-fi *** ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeEden Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 The hi-fi looks better all the way reece are you goin to get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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