i like cunning stunts

What gear ratio is ali using looks like and 18 up front?

Nice one Mark.

Need to find them spank rims in black somewhere... Nice looking build Jamie similar to what I'm doing now.

Is danny sponsored by michelin cant think of a reason he would be running them otherwise..

Loved that

What was the geo?

Them forks look scary! Have they an alu insert?? Where from?

Hes legit no need to worry.

Brilliant

Ive just bought another echo mod a 2011 model which has a better geo than the 2013 one in your first link and ive had the sl which you have added in your second link. Imo the earlier model has better geo than both of them but out of those two it would be the SL everyday for me feels very light and the wb is a bit longer plus the ti bb and bits are nice too. Edit. Take the advice above and go custom because you would have to change some parts on them echos especially the brakes which will set you back about £300.

Really like davids riding but f**k me he looks like a ninja turtle which ruined the video for me.

Size of hole difference at the top? And whats this about the rotors 'tearing'? Not like hope at all.

Nicest marino ive seen to date is he still using that awful 'tensioner' system? Also whats the stem?

i asked why he thought the m810s where better no answer. Filo that he explains that he has pad knock with his which you dont get with hopes. The people who rate the saints give no feedback as to why. The pic of the mod with them on looks rubbish they look too big and bulky. I cant get them in IS mounts so would have to buy adaptors. Theres a few reasons there that i didnt realise before making a thread on it.

Ive ordered the hopes now with is mounts as I dont like using adaptors plus the hopes just look better built imho. Cheers

This is it what bothers me they look overkill on a mod which is what il be buying them for.

Why?

What rotors are people using with them?

Ive had lots and lots of hopes over the years but people rave about the saints so I am considering them for my next bike. Im looking for opinions on Pros and cons for each but ultimately I want the best brake available hold and bite. Dont say maggys as there not an option Cheers

Interesting you say the fourplay would be better for tgs style stuff when the arcades reach is longer plus shorter stays in theory should be better on the rear wheel... I do like the look of them but am not sure if its for me.

Great vid remind me of webster riding that relaxed style yet powerful.

What does it feel like to ride compared to the fourplay?

Job and knock today was away for 12 after cutting , prepping and welding 5 of these mild steel 2" sch160 butts.

Hex is the best combination of both imho and probably what i will be getting next.... again. Il leave this here

So just jumped in a local engineering place for a few weeks to keep me out the house and instead of spending i may aswel be earning even if its not a lot. Done some Autogenous 10" s/s 304 grade sch 5 nothing much just a few full lengths with taft ends didnt want me to purge as its just an extraction line. Was welding some 2" c/s shc 160 12mm wall thickness today will get some pictures and upload them too. Be fabricating / welding a s/s vessell soon so should get some quality pics of that and the different welds involved. How you getting on?