onzatrip Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 Very true mark! What they like compared to trialtechs for example? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 Personally I'm more of a fan of the Trialtechs. Stronger steerer setup, and I kinda prefer the dropout shape of the Trialtechs to the Rockmans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onzatrip Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 Personally I'm more of a fan of the Trialtechs. Stronger steerer setup, and I kinda prefer the dropout shape of the Trialtechs to the Rockmans. okay sweet thanks! I already run trialtechs, was gonna spend some dollar on the bike, Il keep what i got lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 The 144.12 freewheels are out now, here's some details. Our batch got delayed because the original batch were machined incorrectly so we had to wait, hence them only being out now. As you can see, 4 offset groups of 3 pawls, with a 36-tooth ratchet system. Each pawl has an individual coil spring too which means they've got a really nice, precise engagement. They feel surprising 'clean' on each engagement considering how some 108 click freewheels feel. Dual sealed bearing design also means that it doesn't require a lockring which is handy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 Is it humanly possible to take one of those apart and replace all the pawls without the use of 6 people? They look good to be fair, I'm not a huge fan of Rockman products alot of the time, but the freewheels LOOK promising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 Is it humanly possible to take one of those apart and replace all the pawls without the use of 6 people? They look good to be fair, I'm not a huge fan of Rockman products alot of the time, but the freewheels LOOK promising Yes, I managed it earlier, but only because I have 14 arms Yeah they feel decent, I'm gonna lob one on my bike and see how it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukasMcNeal Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 They dont look like they are finished too well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 They dont look like they are finished too well? That's the problem with such detailed photos, they show every mark. They aren't any 'worse' than any of the other freewheels available Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 The actual finishing is pretty decent, they're just sort of scratched/scuffed, so they look worse. It's all primarily around the edges which is why they kind of look like they're rough, but in actual fact aren't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukasMcNeal Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 Oh I see, just wondered though! £90 and it looked all scratched! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalopS Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 Looks pretty good. Nice to see them bringing out something of there own that koxx dont already have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 Oh I see, just wondered though! £90 and it looked all scratched! Costs a lot more to put a pair of sealed bearings in there, machining out some precise bodys and ratchets, and making all those pawls and springs than it does to scratch them unfortunately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukasMcNeal Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 Costs a lot more to put a pair of sealed bearings in there, machining out some precise bodys and ratchets, and making all those pawls and springs than it does to scratch them unfortunately I meant the £90 and it was scratched. I can see why it does cost £90, the improvement of not having a lockring is great though Are they really noisey though due to engagements? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 They're genuinely not as scratched as they appear to be. Because of the fact they've got relatively harsh light on them, it makes things look worse than they are. Same way that studio photographers doing portraits and so on use soft-boxes to make the lighting more gentle so it doesn't highlight imperfections. Just in the office and elsewhere they look like any other freewheel - not perfect, but not noticeably scuffed or scratched. It's just the shiny surface and harder lighting making them look bad. Because they've got the sealed bearings around them they aren't as loud as an SL or some sort of similar open bearing freewheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirt jumper jake Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 Might get one of these, look quite strong. reckon its possible to put profile pawls in them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusevelt Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 I meant the £90 and it was scratched. I can see why it does cost £90, the improvement of not having a lockring is great though Are they really noisey though due to engagements? Who cares really, just as long as they perform better than the Echo SL/TR and are more robust in design. Anyone else in the uk testing this freewheel apart from Adam@Tartybikes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey1991 Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 They look like they're gonna work. SL contender? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Who cares really, just as long as they perform better than the Echo SL/TR and are more robust in design. Anyone else in the uk testing this freewheel apart from Adam@Tartybikes? The SL/TR freewheels ARE robust in design, its just you twatted yours on a wall hard enough to crack it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusevelt Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 (edited) Forum member 'Monty221ti' cracked his SL outer shell just like mine but under NORMAL riding use. Edited January 22, 2011 by Rusevelt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dd Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Forum member 'Monty221ti' snapped his SL outer shell just like mine but under NORMAL USE. 1 out of a 1000 is definetly better than 1 out of 10. I never had a single skip with mine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Classic case of "I heard my mother's sister's donkeys pet rabbit's broke, they must be shit..." The SL freewheels have set the bar high, but it's the benchmark all freewheels will now be up against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Is the centre of those freewheels alloy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalopS Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 (edited) Are they going to do spares for the freewheel like the Eno has? Edited January 23, 2011 by CalopS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 (edited) Surely they won´t. Edited January 23, 2011 by ghostrider88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Forum member 'Monty221ti' cracked his SL outer shell just like mine but under NORMAL riding use. BRB, buying an ACS claws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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