dann2707 Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 haha yeah we erm lost our code or something and can't activate it. Very annoying box that pops up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Cool stuff. If you can create some pretty stable/repeatable lab test conditions you should be able to quantify things fairly easily haha yeah we erm lost our code or something and can't activate it. Very annoying box that pops up. Sling me your email address, we'll get that sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Cheers mate, got it sorted now MMM came to the rescue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJI Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Should be interesting Dann. Just got home from preparing the rally car/service van for this weekend. We went out for a quick spin to scrub in a new pair of tyres and set the brake bias. I need a sequential gearbox in my life, this is just insane, we think the car has around 180bhp and weighs about 1000kg, but the box shaves soooo much time off the acceleration, this is roughly 0-100: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukasMcNeal Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 That noise! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Reynolds Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 sound like theres some straight cut gears in there aswell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Getting in to a car with Ben Moore at pace - you're a braver man than I In unrelated news, this one's probably more for Prawn & Seamons, though I'd imagine Robin & Jardo may be able to help a little too: AGU head on AUQ - what'd be involved and what's the benefit? From what I can make out the AGU being large port would equate to shifting more air, or rather the same volume of air at lower boost levels. Would this mean that should the time come to fit a bigger turbo and take a trip up to Niki that there's more scope for power? It makes some sense to me that being a little more free flowing would allow for better flow when you start to up the pressure along the way, but I'm sure there's more to it than that as usual! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJI Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) Luke, from what I can tell, rods will become an issue before the small-port head will. It kind of depend what turbo you think you'll end up running in the long run. Bill's just got some pretty crazy figures out of a hybrid k04 on a small-port head, with one of his exhaust manifolds on there, more than enough for the standard rods! (~370ish bhp iirc). sound like theres some straight cut gears in there aswell? Yeah, it's got a 6 speed sequential sadev box in it, straight cut gears with dog engagements and flat shift. Basically the clutch is only needed to pull away. (Although downshifts will take some more practice on Bens part to get clutch-less.) Sadly shifts like that don't come from a gizmo stuck on the side of the standard helical box! Edited January 23, 2014 by RobinJI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Yeah rods would definitely be on the cards if (read: when) I did decide to go ahead but that's a fairly straightforward one to get my head around. Some of the figures coming from smallport builds are ridiculous, just trying to get clued up on it rather than being something I'm definitely going to do/wanting to buy now or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TROYston Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Right been looking into getting a lease car, prices, milage blahhhh... Been thinking: Renault twingo renaultsports 1.6vvt Seat Ibiza Sport coupe 1.4 tsi cupra dsg FORD FIESTA HATCHBACK 1.6 Titanium or zetec 3dr Powershift (Jardo?) There all around 300 a month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 From what I can make out the AGU being large port would equate to shifting more air, or rather the same volume of air at lower boost levels. Would this mean that should the time come to fit a bigger turbo and take a trip up to Niki that there's more scope for power? It makes some sense to me that being a little more free flowing would allow for better flow when you start to up the pressure along the way, but I'm sure there's more to it than that as usual! Talking based only on my experience of NA porting.... Obviously FI affects things but don't forget that whilst you have large ports your charge velocity is going to be lower and a smaller turbo might not be able to flow enough volume to keep up with demand. Going to a bigger turbo will start introducing more lag. My supermoto has a 44mm carb fitted (up from the standard 40mm) and whilst it gives a massive boost to the mid range and top end power it loses out on bottom end grunt. A big mistake that people make with porting is to open up the inlet tract as much as possible thinking that more air = more fuel = more power; however all they do is reduce pressure and charge velocity. Again I guess FI will help mitigate this Not sure if it is applicable to turbo tuning but look up velocity porting by mototune usa, some very interesting reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_seamons Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 If you're planning to install rods, fit a large port head while the small port is off. If you're not fitting rods, the cost and effort of changing the heads isn't really worth it. Large port does allow more flow, but it's at the sacrifice of torque low down. I really only fitted an AGU engine to mine because I got it stupidly cheap (£150 for the whole engine with everything still attached), and because it made the whole rebuild process 100% easier doing it out of the car. If you're planning to go all out on the build, and you are trying to extract every last ounce of power from the engine, then yes, large port is worth it (the other advantage of large port engines is the "better" compression ratio, which you won't gain from if you just change the head), but otherwise, you would be better spending the £200+ it will cost to do the head swap on water/meth injection, and actually reap some real world benifits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Cool, cheers for the explanation gents. It's unlikely I'll be going all out and certainly wont be doing anything soon as I'm going to be away for most of the year now, but had seen mention of it around and it just intrigued the knowledge whore in me rather than being something I'm necessarily looking to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted January 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Managed to track down a rotary polisher and a load of products for when I get my car back! Hopefully it'll make it back to Bristol once the new turbo is fitted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Can anyone recommend various products or kits for between £30-40 for reviving faded paint and giving the car a nice finish? Jardo I'm looking at you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Das 6 pro, and some Menzerna PF2500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TROYston Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Jardo can I send you this car list? Need advices 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarathal Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Not the £30-40 price tag I was expecting but I suppose I can use this gear on my next car. The city rovers paint is quite tatty/faded so It's not like it'll get worse by practicing on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Guess so. I've been training at Prodrive all week, I am going shooting with Prawn tomorrow then I fly to Oslo to rally for four days on Saturday night. So I can't really do much replying for a while. Maybe on the flight to Oslo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted January 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Soooooo my car will be done next Thursday now apparently. That's nearly two weeks in total. I told the guy which turbo to buy, which would have been next day delivery, but he insisted on waiting until he picked up the car. Two weeks ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TROYston Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Can't send you a pm. Need serious advice on those cars added to the list: Ford fiesta Renaultsports twingo Citron ds3 Focus st (expensive though ) Volvo v40 Seat ibiza Possibly vw polo or golf Maybe scirocco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 (edited) Fiesta Zetec S, ecoboost. Best handling, best spec, best residual values, not the cheapest but the most accessible and real world affordable of the options. Don't lease, do PCP/Ford Options. Twingo, poop. DS3. Terrible car. Focus ST is great, but the Fiesta ST is MUCH better. V40, gay. And expensive. Ibiza, meh. Build quality is suspect, engines are strong but the chassis isn't great. Polo and Golfs are not a good option unless you go for GTI/GTD. Scirocco screams "I think I am better than a Golf." How much are you looking to spend/what deposit? Edited January 24, 2014 by Pashley26 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted January 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Scirocco screams "I think I am better than a Golf." And looks wise, it most certainly is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TROYston Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 As rule of thumb I want to be spending max of 370 a month, the focus st-1 is 420. For some unknown reason there is no fiesta st? Is that fiesta a diesel? It's no deposit required. There is just shy of 8000 variants of cars to pick from depending on the money I want to spend! Send.me your email and I'll foward you the email containing the list. Sorry about the pic size but if you can see, here is some info on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Why do you have an octopus holding a battery in your notification icon bar thingy? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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