mat hudson Posted June 5, 2007 Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 wow taht dual stem is odd i'm not sure how strong no2 would be, no joins directly above the bb, looks really cool though. i like em all, not too sure about the dinky headtube though, looks a bit odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*BOOTHY* Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 (edited) Mod 2 looks mint might have to get that especialy with the rear disc mount. Please can i have the geo on that frame and how much it would cost?Jack Edited June 6, 2007 by *BOOTHY* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 I heard a rumor that the Limey 20 was going to be dual disc? I see no mount, is it going to grow one and when can I buy one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Limburn Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 mod 1 is lushso clean lookingalso like mod 2 but not as much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Poyzer @ Onza Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Thanks for all the feedback comments. The Limey 26 was just playing with ideas and is just experimental. The 3 mod frames are first proto's of our new line up. The Limey 20" will go into production but with some cosmetic changes and probably disc mounts. The second and third mods are developments of a theme and one frame will go into production with elements of both. It will be our competition frame in two lengths and will be available as frame only or custom builds. It will be as light as the competition but hopefully stronger, and in two lengths. The third frame will be ridden by Danny Butler very shortly. The new "V" stem will be in production shortly and is designed to stiffen the lateral flex of the handlebar, particularly noticeable on 76 cm bars. All our prototypes are now finished in black with silver graphics so do not read anything into the colours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Will they limey mod use a proper usable beefed up disk mount, or a flimsey thin one which isn't really useable as it will just break, because doesnt the limey have a rear disk mount but if i remember right the tarts don't advise running a disk as its not up to the job and will break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Will they limey mod use a proper usable beefed up disk mount, or a flimsey thin one which isn't really useable as it will just break, because doesnt the limey have a rear disk mount but if i remember right the tarts don't advise running a disk as its not up to the job and will break.I was just thinking that about the Limey 26"- the disc mount in the pics reminds me of the ones on the old Hawyes Giant Team Trials frames = snap happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 The new "V" stem will be in production shortly and is designed to stiffen the lateral flex of the handlebar, particularly noticeable on 76 cm bars.that's a bloody good idea - trials bars feel realy dangerous to meAll our prototypes are now finished in black with silver graphics so do not read anything into the coloursbut it's so much nicer than the current production colours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*BOOTHY* Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 but it's so much nicer than the current production colours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikeDotStuffAtOnzaDotCom Posted June 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 THE 'V' STEM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 my oh my. i can see the reasoning, but it looks awful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Yoooo what? just tell everyone to buy Zoo bars.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 my oh my. i can see the reasoning, but it looks awfulPlus it must weigh twice as much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 I like the look of the Limey mod.2 and 3 are a bit... - What's the reasoning behind the dropouts on those? With the metal bits bolted in? I can't see a point to it really...The shorter headtube on the Limey stock looks pretty cool, reminds me of that 24" custom Zoot Tartybikes had?Oh, and the V stem just looks strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Yoooo what? just tell everyone to buy Zoo bars....my 06 zoos bounce around like buggery - do they get worse than that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 my 06 zoos bounce around like buggery - do they get worse than that?Really? Ive never felt mine flex and would laugh at anyone who ran that stem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJI Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Really like the look of the shorter-headtube Limey, just looks cool. I guess having a shorter headtube puts less force on the welds, 'cos there's not as much steerer tube leverage trying to rip it off the top/down tube? Or have I just made something up?Actually the opposite is true, due to the forks being a cantilever. Imagine the lower cup as a pivot point for the forks. Now say you have a 10N load on the dropouts, 400mm from the pivot point, for the system to be in static equilibrium there must be an equal force applied to the forks on the other side of the pivot point.The moment on the dropouts around the lower headset cup is 10x0.4=4NmNow an opposing force is needed to create static equilibrium, so assume we have an 80mm headtube.The load on the upper headset cup is 4/0.08=50NNow assuming a headtube 120mm long.The load on the upper headset cup is 4/0.12=33.33...NMeaning the longer headtube puts significantly less stress on the upper headset area. And the same goes for if you calculated it taking moments around the upper cup.Might be wrong but meh, thats the way I see it. To be fair though, the headtubes on limeys look about as weak as a tank in a bomb shelter, so I can't imagine it being much of a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Actually the opposite is true, due to the forks being a cantilever.Yeah, that's what I was thinking. But it's been a while since A-level maths so I couldn't work out how to explain it. I could see the point if you were trying to get a super-low front end, but since we're not, I think it's a bit pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotchDave Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Mod 3 looks like it would be an amazing comp bike, it looks really sleek and clean, y'know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikeDotStuffAtOnzaDotCom Posted June 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Really? Ive never felt mine flexIt's more to do with stopping the stem from flexing/twisting when pushing down on either end of the bars.The stem weighs 300g, although we reckon we could take another 30-40g off fairly easily.It's a 100mm stem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 The only way i could see that stem being used if each 'arm' was half the weight, therefor, the stem being as light as others, then i could see it being bought. But apart from that, no one's going to buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikeDotStuffAtOnzaDotCom Posted June 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 I didn't have a 100mm PZ-31 stem handy but I did have an 80mm one. It weighs 200g. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 i'd rather have something stronger than something lighter anyday. that said i've never seen that many broken stems. any chance of a mod one? also any chance of onza mod stems in different geos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Like the mod frames though. I think the dropouts on the limey needed altering before the headtube though.Seconded - should really really sort the disc mount first... also - probably got this wrong but are they internal headset stylee headtubes ? with adaptors and tensile headsets banged in ? surely if you wanted short stack height you should have made it into ordinary headtube ? just seems abit weird to go short then add extra bits. oh and the small contact area on the headtube welds seems silly to me too - asking for it. The new "V" stem will be in production shortly and is designed to stiffen the lateral flex of the handlebar, particularly noticeable on 76 cm bars.its a good idea - but does it mean you basically are stuck to onza bars ? but then again ... who the hell needs 30 inch bars !!!! oh and are you doing this for control or to stop people snapping your very wide bars anyway I like mod 1 and 3 (as far as i like any mods) they have some nice touches. The limey needs some work but is ok as it is.oh and like everyone else says - get good paint jobs and dont laquer over the stickers !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the organiser Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 ok just to update you all the limey20 is now built up and has been rode by most of the team ie Danny Ben Rob and Ash and it Ash who is now on it and it rides aceonly one or two very little things to sort on it and i think its spot on hope Mike gets it under way fast as i think it this will be one of the best 20" bikes to ever come on to the marketDave BPS Mike can you send Dannys frame asap as it wants to get it built up thanks Dave B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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