cwtrials

Agreed with above. The entry echos of ten years ago came with tires, brakes, and brake pads that were pretty much useless, I'd buy a brand new bike and drop $400-$500 immediately. And they wouldn't last very long; the wheels were trash, and other parts scary to ride hard. The new entry bikes are actually solid and good out of the box. The biggest problem now is supply, it's really hard to get just about anything these days. Just did an inflation calculator, $1000 USD in 2014 is $1343 now, so 34.3% inflation. That combined with the newer entry bikes being a lot more solid, things seem spot on price wise As nostalgic as I am of the older bikes, I don't miss how flimsy and poorly made they seemed compares to the newer stuff. I used to buy a bike every year, now my bikes last until I get bored. However, the extensive supply is sorely missed. I built a bike from scratch two years ago and had to make six orders from 3 countries to get all the parts.

Ha 100% agree, I threw some numbers at Marino, and probably made a big mistake on this one, but I still wanted to build it up and see. Lol I have an old school 26" frame I could swap out once I give it a go and see how weird it is.

Built it up today.

Ok, I think I made it work. This old fox F80RLT has a pin that holds the top out plate. Instead of spacers you move the top out plate by tapping out the pin, which allows it to slide to different locations. The shaft comes with two preset holes drilled, one for 80mm and another for 100mm. You can see the hole to the left would allow for increasing travel to 100mm. I'm order to decrease travel I had to drill another hole in the shaft. Should be about 60mm travel now. Axle to crown around 445.

Thanks guys! I might try a reba, but I finally found a manual on my fox fork. It's super old and not something I'd want on there forever, but I think I can shorten it with a minor modification, at least for proof of concept before I spend more money. I'll keep you updated if I get it to work.

Thanks man! I'm confident about taking a fork apart as long as I can get the right manual. Just have no idea which forks would allow me to do this. So with rock shox solo air allows travel spacers? Dual air doesn't?

Hey guys, I've got two trials bikes. A modern high BB bike and a more retro norco inspired frame I had Marino build. It's actually a ton of fun in the right situation. I know just about nothing about the internals of suspension forks. I used to have a x-fusion velvet that was lowered to 60, and I owned one of Ryan leech's old demo bikes with a custom marz. Im trying to get a 26" fork with both a crown to axle of 440-445 and the ability to get fairly stiff. I've got an old fox f80rlt on there now, that is about 475 and it messes up the front end steering too much Anybody have any suggestions of forks I can modify? Or even pointers to tutorials to do so?

That looks like a really fun bike! Can't wait to see how it rides.

My wife and kids were driving home from visiting family when their car wouldn't start or take a jump 4 hours from home. A friend of ours drove to where they're at, started pulling fuses and checking voltages and was able to get the car started for them. I was getting ready to rent a caul hauler trailer and make a post in the angry thread.

Hey guys, I recently decided to start building a trials area in the backyard. I'm curious to see what your at home riding areas look like? Would love some ideas. I'm lucky enough to work in construction and can get a lot of materials out of the bin to help out. Cheers from USA

Yeah, I've definitely had the same problem before on lightweight rims with large cutouts. Tape was the only way I could get around it.

I definitely agree with all three of you guys. It seems like as long as he's able to stay in his warp speed flow state he's magic, but in the big comps when something interrupts that flow, things fall short. Missed flags and the lot. But he's still my favorite comp rider to watch. Style and creativity for days. And he's got the power to back it up now.

I know it's been said before, but Charlie is on a different wavelength. It's crazy to see him transition so well to 26" Pretty sure he did section 3 with no or almost no balance hops. Just looked like he was having a light stroll. Unreal

Unfortunately Deng passed away awhile back. Echo / zoo / czar continued for a few years without him, but the brand didn't survive covid. In general inventory has been lacking since 2020. It's getting better but High end brands like crewkerz are sold out pretty quick and there aren't any firm contenders to fill the entry market like echo did.

I'm wondering if the angular motion would creating a feeling of instability? I'm also sure pedals like this would not be as durable.

I'm using the trailcross LT's and love them.

Haha, I don't. But I don't use those Pedals anymore. Or ride in the rain or snow.

When I used the xpedo spry, and a few other Pedals I had done the same thing. Some other Pedals have not needed it. Like you said some Pedals have a large amount of the weight around the axle where there aren't pins, and it can get slippery in the wet. Do you have other Pedals to try? I used to use longer pins in the winter months.

What I meant was that it seemed to just be a rebranded maestro carbon or canyon or something. Highly doubt it's a one off specialized.

Nice riding! What frame is that?

I always struggled to switch between a comp and street, or between a 26 and 20 comp. I see some riders do it really well, switching over almost instantly. What I've seen is that a small % of exceptionally talented riders (a group I don't belong to) can switch back and forth with ease, and the rest of us need a solid 3-4 rides to really start to get used to a bike. Are you riding almost every day or just a few times a month?

Since it's a pretty small area I'd just use a wire wheel.

🍿🙂 These identify the frame threads are some of my favorite. Frames like this are hard, nothing really sticks out about it.

I'm also pretty old school, but I like the new system of scoring. Like Ross said, we're rarely seeing strato dabs anymore. They're also able to put together longer and more challenging sections, and riders who don't complete the section are still getting rewarded for the gates they get. I used to hate it when someone cleaned a section but went a second or two over and got a 5. I feel like it's harder than counting to 5, but still easy to follow. Clean a gate, get ten points. Some gates have an A B and C. Put a foot down, don't get points for that gate. I think the tape is still the same as it's always been, it really just needs good course builders to make sure riders aren't doing something weird to sneak through.

The jealousy frame and cranks feel so much stiffer than any other frame I've ridden. I had a echo GU around 2012 that was round 18 lb, 8.1 kg. But it felt like crap. Most of the current frames are a bit stiffer and more reliable than super lightweight frames of 4-6 years ago. If you're ok with snail cams, instead of a built in tensioner, that saves weight. The tensioner setup on the frame instelf adds some weight, along with the tensioner. Play Kill II is 1.68 kg.