Brisa Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 Think the cosworth merc 190's were a 2.5 that made 200bhp. So it doesn't qualify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrialsDisplay.co.uk Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 A new Clio Sport is 2.0 litre 197 bhp - very close! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brisa Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 Ahha but not close enough.The 207 RCUP obliterates it but isn't really production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endofreak Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 THIS is the best I can find. 115bhp from a 995cc rotary engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quick_spider Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 Pretty sure there was a production run of MG ZR's which ran on throttle bodies (similar to the lotus VHPD setup) which produced circa 190bhp. The reason for this was to enable them to run legitamatly in the tin-top racing (similar to Ford producing the RS200 to enable it to run in a production class).european (tick)Must be in production/been in production (Production ;- 400+ cars built) (tick)Saloon or Hatchback (tick)Must NOT be turbocharged/supercharged (tick)100BHP per litre (tick)No bigger that 2.0L (tick)Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 (edited) THIS is the best I can find. 115bhp from a 995cc rotary engine.Ok, I'm gonna be careful because we've had a few false alarms so far, but this looks pretty promising, it's not a turbo, it's over 100bhp per litre, it's a saloon kinda thing, it's German....... where's the catch?Davey Edited January 12, 2007 by Small_Gear_Big_Style Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quick_spider Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 THIS is the best I can find. 115bhp from a 995cc rotary engine.That's a good point - perhaps some of the mk 1 RX7's?Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavyn. Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 (edited) http://members.aol.com/Pocketrocket993/index.html1L producing 99bhp charade gtti Edited January 12, 2007 by Gavyn L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 http://members.aol.com/Pocketrocket993/index.html1L producing 99bhp charade gttiThat is a turbo, silly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brisa Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 (edited) NSU RO80 1967 - 1977Country: GermanyEngine: Twin RotaryCapacity: 2 X 497 ccPower: 115 bhpTransmission: clutch-less semi-automaticTop Speed: 112 mphNumber Built: 33,900think it ticks all the right boxesHorray for Endofreak lol Edited January 12, 2007 by Brisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 http://members.aol.com/Pocketrocket993/index.html1L producing 99bhp charade gttiTurbo, and anyway, 99bhp != 100bhp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brisa Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 And its jap scrap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavyn. Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 That is a turbo, silly!lolz never read it all, still pretty impressive though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 lolz never read it all, still pretty impressive though.Not really, finding a turbo that does 100bhp per litre is easy, so this is actually pretty poor, haha!Davey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guineasmithpig Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 (edited) apologies for the Alpina D3. i realised about 3 secs after posting that the BMW diesels are turdo'd, but didn't have chance to change. i was 3 mins late back from lunch due to your little challenge anyways! also didn't have time to investigate the new clio either (i did 100bhp per litre, not per tonne), not seen much bumf on the new ones, apart from them being fat and slow due to crash reg's.good challenge though. not really seen much that comes close without being turbo/supercharged Edited January 12, 2007 by guineasmithpig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waddy Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 will this count?... http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/specs/data-d...spx?deriv=28653 + http://www.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=33-2888should be about 200bhp then, or has it to be 200bhp off of the showroom floor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abe Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 Not too sure if mazda is europian I know it was (or possibly is still) a jap car but, I have some idea its owned by ford now so does a rx 8 count [topic=http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=47&i=7249]rx8In the RX8, that 1.3 rotary unit develops a useful 238bhp without forced induction devices like a turbo or a supercharger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish-Finger-er Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 Not too sure if mazda is europian I know it was (or possibly is still) a jap car but, I have some idea its owned by ford now so does a rx 8 count [topic=http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=47&i=7249]rx8no, as if using technicalities, then technically fords american. till i read production, was gunna say r1 engined mini. closest i can think of is the new renault clio sport, 197.4 bhp from 1997 cc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJI Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 (edited) I think Mazdas Korean isnt it?And aren't the new golf GTIs turbo'd? Please don't slap me if that's stupid of me.Edit: I think that NSU does it if Wankel rotorys count as N/A. Edited January 12, 2007 by Dont you Just Hate it When... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 no they are turbo'dnice try though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavyn. Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 lotus exige, 1.8 producing 189bhp don't know if its turbo'd or not but has something similar to that of a civic (dohc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish-Finger-er Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 lotus exige, 1.8 producing 189bhp don't know if its turbo'd or not but has something similar to that of a civic (dohc)its not turbo'd its an n/a vvti toyota engine. but its not a saloon or a hatch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavyn. Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 close but no cigar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipkickbs Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Fiesta 1.1. 550bhp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBProductions Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Some of the fords must be pushing out around that figure , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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