PaRtZ Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 ok supposing you're rolling to a wall at walking speed. how many pedal rotations do you put in to get up the wall.Im asking because i want to know what the "norm" is. To be honest im pretty much a n00b when it comes to forwards upping (as any of you have ridden with me no doubt noticed )Ive always learnt to do just a half pedal which is pretty limiting really. I've got about 3 inches under bar height with a rolling run up and about top of head tube height without a run up but thats it, and thats not very consistant lol. So ive just been out and tried a full pedal rotation and on the 3 times I managed it, it felt SO nice and smooth, it was awesome. But that was out of 18 attempts lol...so yeah how many do you use? also any tips be great too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cristoff Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 my left foot is my forward foot, so i normally throw in a 3/4 crank turn before i pedal up. just how i learned really, i don't think there is a norm. everyones different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 no idea where i start, it's down to initiative where you take off/start putting in the beanz, but i'll have my right foot+crank at the 12 o'clock position before i start putting power in+pulling up the front end. pedals before that varries, based on how pissed off i am/size of object/who i'm avoiding a slap from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Left foot starting up and then just do a power half pedal with little roll up speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Rolling with my left foot forward, Left Right and land with my left foot forwards on the wall.So i guess you could say one full rotation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paolo Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 I get a bit more than hip height with half rotation, but I ride with a very hard ratio for trials (close to two actually). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Sheehan! Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Slow roll, left pedal forwards/up, pedal round (1/2 rotation) until right foot is up then kick proper hard and lift.I find that if i proper lean back as im preloading (before pedaling), hold it until my right foot comes round and then jump with the bike as i kick, it really does get me higher. Also pushing forwards as i come level with the wall helps get on top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robster Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Both Rob and me were tought to set off with our bad foot forward, the reason for this is so that when your strong foot comes round you are already on your way. If you set off with your good foot it has reached the bottom of it's stroke before you are even away.It feels a little wierd at first but the extra power you get is amazing. A bit hard to explain but try it and you will see what I mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Going at speed = bunnyhopGoing slow with no run up = bunnyhop with small pedal kick on take offNot moving with zero run up = static upAll 3 do bar height for me... bunnyhop versions do around 42"-44" ish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janson Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 full or 3/4 rotation mostly. sometimes half, depending on how close to the wall i wanna start.i always do the rolling swap move rather than just beasting it up, find it much easier when the runup is limited. also easier to land on the top rather than the corner = smoother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guineasmithpig Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 if i'm rolling in, i make one full pedal rotation, but i'm not sure where my feet are at as i lift the front up. i've always found it really useful to practice with no roll in, using just one full crank rotation or less. that also means learning to trackstand comfortably with your bad foot forward too, for half pedal stroke touches.in the end, pretty much everyone has their own favoured way of doing it. practice all methods a lot, and see which is working for you. and study vids of better riders and their techniques, picking out where they make their power with the pedals, at what point they lift/tap/jump. my best taps just appeared randomly, and i'm struggling to harness the technique and timing! it involves lots of momentum, and a fat tap, which has led me to lots of over-the-bars vaults. i think i've cleared the wall i practice on more times than the bike has!Smithy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_Tupman Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Endless runup = two pedal strokes starting on good foot.Short runup = one pedal strokeTight = half stroke starting on bad foot.I love peadling up things feeld far more flowing in a comp than sidehoping, although it's also proberly the reason i'm not very good and can't sidhop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 One full rotation starting and finishing with my left foot. I start lifting my front wheel after doing about 2/5ths of a full stroke.If a wall is very high, 2 full rotations without coasting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netherking Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 (edited) hey man you should really get a DVD(download), mastering the art or trials by ryan leech hes a beast he shows you pretty much every move used in trials from every angle and in slow mo. its helped me loads with timing when it comes to pedal up and zap taps, seriously try get it. harry Edited June 22, 2007 by Netherking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManxTrialSpaz Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 (edited) everytime I go to backwheel something, it's weak foot forwards, just a bit higher than level (half way between _ and / ) Then when I get cloe to the wall, I bring the front wheel up with my weak foot whilst leaning over the back wheel, then harsh kick when the strong foot comes around (as if you were static upping forwards) and springing forwards and up whilst using my arms and legs to bring the bike up. Edited June 22, 2007 by ManxTrialSpaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hI-OOPS-CAPS Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 have left foot down,right up. then rotate 270 till left foot forward and im sortedusually slow roll if enough room, generally can start from still Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 hey man you should really get a DVD(download), mastering the art or trials by ryan leech hes a beast he shows you pretty much every move used in trials from every angle and in slow mo. its helped me loads with timing when it comes to pedal up and zap taps, seriously try get it. harryMost of the sections of that dvd have been split and put on youtube, split into different moves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 i use two pedals to get up most things unless im feeling speshal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 I learnt them from Martyn Ashton on Tricks and Stunts... Roll in fairly slow, start good foot down then do 3/4 of a pedal stroke and put the all the power down in the final quarter. Seems to work for me- can pretty much pedal up stuff that most people tap.Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianttrials Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 my left foot is my forward foot, so i normally throw in a 3/4 crank turn before i pedal up. just how i learned really, i don't think there is a norm. everyones different.same here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeymoped Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 i'm pretty much a noobie as well and i've got a dodgy style but as long as i get the pedal strokes it starting to work.........just pratice and it will come well thats what i'm telling my self Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Bleech Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 pedal up!?!?!nah bunnyhop all the way, I can get about the height of the middle of my headtube with pedal up, seriously crap at them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concussion Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 Most of the sections of that dvd have been split and put on youtube, split into different moves.You beautie, why didn't I think of searching for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walleee Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 Both Rob and me were tought to set off with our bad foot forward, the reason for this is so that when your strong foot comes round you are already on your way. If you set off with your good foot it has reached the bottom of it's stroke before you are even away.It feels a little wierd at first but the extra power you get is amazing. A bit hard to explain but try it and you will see what I mean.and me!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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