makrela Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 (edited) Can someone tell me, what is the least dangerous way of learning bunnyhop barspins on a trials bike? I can bunnyhop reasonably well, but i never tried barspins. Edited November 19, 2008 by makrela Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant_hundley Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 Would be a lot easier with a seat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makrela Posted November 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 Yeah I know, but I don't have a bike with a seat. And bmxers can do them pretty well without holding the seat with their legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaffacakes Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 On a trials bike?!Your balls will get battered.Take the cushions off your sofa, and put them on the floor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 First of all you need a front brake........lol Then you look up "learn how to bar spin" on You Tube. I did it the other night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makrela Posted November 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 Hehe I thought there is a super-duper safe way to learn them, so I don't knock my teeth out again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusevelt Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 Type in either Aaron Chase, or Jeff Lenosky on Youtube and click on their How-to clips. If your running a stem more than 90mm length and bars wider than 25-26ins then forget it, because the gyroscopic effect caused by spinning the bars will make it almost impossible to learn on a trials bike esspecally if you don't have a seat. Bmx's, 24in, and 26in street/dirt jump bikes are easier to learn because of their smaller geo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumplestiltskin Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 (edited) Just give it a go and see how it turns out? It's not that difficult. I was out a few nights ago and just decided to try it for a laugh. Pretty much got it the first time, and nailed it the second. I think the key is to only spin the bars with one hand, whilst keeping the other in essentially the same position so it's there to catch them when they come back round. I'm right handed, so I spun with my left, and caught them with my right. After that I assume its just a matter of perseverance untill you find the balance point you need to stay upright whilst not holding on to anything... Edited November 19, 2008 by Rumplestiltskin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 Type in either Aaron Chase, or Jeff Lenosky on Youtube and click on their How-to clips. If your running a stem more than 90mm length and bars wider than 25-26ins then forget it, because the gyroscopic effect caused by spinning the bars will make it almost impossible to learn on a trials bike esspecally if you don't have a seat. Bmx's, 24in, and 26in street/dirt jump bikes are easier to learn because of their smaller geo.word - put on a small stem and chop your bars down... that would make things a lot easier ....can you do them the normal way ie just pull up the bars then whip the bars round without hopping ? that would be a start .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 Trampoline bike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve-A Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 When I learnt bar spins on my 24" I went to the skate park.I was running a 80 mm stem and bars about 23/24" wide. I cant imagine doing bar spins on a trials bike with anything much longer/wider.Firstly I learnt them on a BMX, I cant recommend this enough. I set the seat up a bit, and learnt to bar spin rolling along slowly, just lifting the front wheel. As other have said, spin with one catch with the other, its not quite as simple as that, but its not too different and you'll pick it up easy enough. Even if you haven't got a bmx, most trials riders would pick this up in a matter of minutes really. Once you've got the idea, then transfer to trials bike, and learn to do the same thing without a seat. Things I remember being important were to keep weight central and lift bars reasonably high before spinning. To begin with I kept my weight too far forward as I was scared of coming off back. Once I had this down, I went to the skate park on a quiet time when there was no-one to get in my way and basically had a go at doing them out of a quarter onto the deck/jump box take off onto top of box. This felt easier to me than going straight for bunny hop, as your body does a more similar movement to the just lifting front wheel style spins.From there the next step is to just get out and do it, well have a go anyway!Side point: Trampoline bikes are soo much fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 As rowan said, learning to manual barspin is probably the first step (not a full on rowan-johns-length manual, just a pull up + spin) Then get used/comforable to that and addthe bunnyhop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backgren Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 i found it harder to do the manual barspin though, i just push the bike down (as i'm standing on the pedals) and don't get enough time to spin the bars fully round. it was easier making a tiny bunnyhop, literally just lifting off the floor and trying to not put any weight on the feet. worked for me anyways, i got the bars round. i'm still not very good at them though. this is on my bmx bike with a really low seat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 bars wider than 25-26ins then forget it, because the gyroscopic effect caused by spinning the bars will make it almost impossible to learn on a trials bikeNot particularly. I know plenty of BMXers who run 28"+ width bars that can barspin fine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nick Riviera Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Not particularly. I know plenty of BMXers who run 28"+ width bars that can barspin fine...That's a lie and you know it. everyone cool in bmx runs grips that touch the brace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Not particularly. I know plenty of BMXers who run 28"+ width bars that can barspin fine...Yeah but are they running 110mm stems?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 (edited) Not particularly. I know plenty of BMXers who run 28"+ width bars that can barspin fine...yeah I dont think that wide bars are particularly a huge problem on their own - its in combination with a long stem that makes things tricky. Bmxers tend to have a bar stem set up that is essentially a zero length stem set up that means the bars go round in a perfect circle...so a compromise would be 90 or preferably less with short bars ... Edited November 20, 2008 by manuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makrela Posted November 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Thanks for the advices guys, I will definetly give it a go at the weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikee Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 I don't know if this will help you atall. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JNNEff_Cq8 It's not exactly the best tutorial in the world but it might help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 Not particularly. I know plenty of BMXers who run 28"+ width bars that can barspin fine...I now plenty with 30" that can spin them with out a care in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 yeah I dont think that wide bars are particularly a huge problem on their own - its in combination with a long stem that makes things tricky. Bmxers tend to have a bar stem set up that is essentially a zero length stem set up that means the bars go round in a perfect circle...so a compromise would be 90 or preferably less with short bars ...What I was getting at is that you don't need to massively compromise your setup to try and learn them. You could just go for a shorter stem and you might be alright, rather than hacking your bars down so your levers touch the stem purely so you can try and learn to barspin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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