T.McMillan Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 alot better than the yabbaa out at the momento Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant_hundley Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 stiffness on alloy is a big factor for cracking/snapping remember Yeah, steel frames are flexy and don't crack as easy... If the frame has no flex I think it'll be more brittle and prone to cracking.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 i would.defo get some horizontal dropouts on a production version though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Yeah, steel frames are flexy and don't crack as easy... If the frame has no flex I think it'll be more brittle and prone to cracking..Steel has a very different reaction when faced with structural fatigue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walker Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 It looks like a zhi z3! Not sure about the brake mounts, i can see why it needs a booster, i could imagine the back end being flexy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant_hundley Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Steel has a very different reaction when faced with structural fatigue.Ok, maybe a bad example My 6 year old flexy frame is still going strong, and I've killed a stiffer newer frame after 3 months..My 4 year old flexy forks are still perfectly fine and I've broke 2 sets of new urbans which were stiffer in about 4 months each timeIMO, if parts are too stiff they crack easier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycholist Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 No, he's got the bash between the frame and the BB.That's so cunning you could pin a tail on it and call it a weasel ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) Ok, maybe a bad example My 6 year old flexy frame is still going strong, and I've killed a stiffer newer frame after 3 months..My 4 year old flexy forks are still perfectly fine and I've broke 2 sets of new urbans which were stiffer in about 4 months each timeIMO, if parts are too stiff they crack easierThere's no opinion about it. The FACTS are that different materials act differently. Were your flexy frame and forks which have lasted made out of steel by any chance? Edited May 21, 2009 by //JD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant_hundley Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 both alluminium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun H Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Were your flexy frame and forks which have lasted made out of steel by any chance?No but his old forks are probably U6 alloy whereas the newer ones are 6061 T6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant_hundley Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) Forgot about u6 thought the 07 urbans were u6 anyway and that the 08 ones and after weren't... Edited May 21, 2009 by grant_hundley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) I guess it'll do well mainly due to the price. A few decent things going on too. But the geo isn't something i'd go for, but i'm in the minority.[edit]I'd best add, 380mm is where i don't like looking. Lonnngggerr. Edited May 21, 2009 by eskimo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Good stuff! I like the look of the frame, though as someone mentioned, the gusset under the top tube by the headtube looks messy and a little like an afterthought. For some reason the wels also look a bit messy around the seatstay/top tube join, maybe thats because its a proto? Looks great for ~£300, I like the simple colour and think any graphics should be minimal. Geo also sounds good, don't make the bb any higher! Though its in safe hands with Ali on that one As for dropouts, I think Horizontal would be great, but could you make sure the cam bolt hole is drilled nearer to the axle than on the current 1499's? Mine is pretty much maxxed out even though theres a bit of space left in the dropout. I love the Sky-style chainstay/seatstay join, looks great. Setting it up for 18:15 would be a good move too (i'd imagien it already is though?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r2wtrials Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 very, very nice... as said above keep the graphics off completely or at least do them in a dark grey so they look subtle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 disc mounts? please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Gray Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 That is a real price for a frame, and i love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick G Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) Horizontal Adam / Ali! and that looks like a nice frame; straight tubing f t w Edited May 21, 2009 by Nick G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adlir Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Thats one nice bike And VERY cheap Bye Adli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLeacock™ Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 disc mounts? please Agree so much, if that had disk mounts like the current yabbaa, that would be such a lovely/popular frame!As for stickers, I think you should get a sheet like with the inspired allowing for each one to be individual, and if people don't want them they don't have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Powell Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) No rear vee? Thought you were a fan of rear vee brakes.Looks awsome though, they the new Neon forks also? And Blue Tnn pad material? Edited May 21, 2009 by Connor Powell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I am glad people like it! I know I do! Can't wait to have the updated version with horizontal dropouts (it MUST have them lol).I have seen pictures of the planned stickers and I think they look amazing! Think a more subtle 1499 in gray colours. Oh, I don't think it should have disk mounts, it saves weight and looks 100x better!If anyone wants a ride this weekend down south, just ask.PS, I am as every bit as "special" as that picture makes out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Might have to have a quick blast Ali Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDoom Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusevelt Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Looks impressively stiff shame about the slack headangle 72.5-73 degrees and it will be the perfect street machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Whats the weight of the full bike ali?Also, im gonna be needing a frame when i head of to uni, and so far this looks perfect! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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