tomturd Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 Please vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Nichols Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 No! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 That's like merging hotdogs with strawberries. Lovely on their own but when combined it would be awful. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeperson45 Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 They do seem to be pretty much the same at the moment, so I voted yes just because I don't see it being to different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomturd Posted June 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 They do seem to be pretty much the same at the moment, so I voted yes just because I don't see it being to different. Thats my thinking It would make more sense to split in a different way, eg.. er, how to, mechanical help, choosing a bike, general trials (or something) IMO (if split at all) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 They're getting pretty samey, but I'm more in favour of it for the fact it reduces the number of subforums by one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 I can still remember when there were about 5-6 subforums and people were complaining about how there'd be "too many" if riding photos and riding videos got split... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 That's like merging hotdogs with strawberries. Lovely on their own but when combined it would be awful. Hot straws and dog berries? Never tried it. I'm against the merge. For one there would be too many topics, even new ones would get lost and forgotten on the 2nd page. Secondly I have a feeling that BC contains some of the riffraff that used to sit in NMC before it was removed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Nichols Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 I think I'm confused. Can new members only post in the beginners chat section, or can they post everywhere now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomturd Posted June 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 I think I'm confused. Can new members only post in the beginners chat section, or can they post everywhere now? Anyone can post anywhere now (and have been able to for a few months ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franksx2005 Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 Anyone can post anywhere now (and have been able to for a few months ) They are similar but the questions in the btc are newbie questions so it is serving it's purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Nichols Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 Oh, in that case I retract my "No!". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topsy Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 I personally wouldn't want "which is a good bike" questions everywhere in trials chat.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidbarr Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 To be honest, I think now that new members don't have to post in nmc, not many do. So even if you don't merge them there will still be a lot of 'wats a gd bike' topics in trials chat. Just my view on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Gibbs Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 If it was to merge prehaps a couple of new stickys should be put in place ie, what bike? and freewheels just to try keep a bit of order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukasMcNeal Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 After this thread about a bashplate?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomturd Posted June 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 Lol. Thats the first time I've seen that thread.. I think my point is that there are threads in Beginners Trials Chat that should be in Trials Chat and vice versa, so you end up reading both forums anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukasMcNeal Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 Gonna be honest if I want an answer i'll ask it straight in trials chat where i'm more likely to get a better answer than in the other forum. Also if i'm honest again I rarely delve into beginners chat at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 (edited) People post dumb noob questions in either one so really it doesn't matter. I'd say mods should move the topics around but that's serious effort and it would probably offend the dumb-os. I'm for merging. The idea for sub-forums about mechanical questions - ('troubleshoot my bike'?) or such like sounds good. Edited June 5, 2011 by Revolver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 (edited) Firstly, combining them is going to cause problems with there being a few too many topics. In trials chat right now, the oldest reply on the first is only 3 days old, and there's only a couple of them. So the rate of which topics are leaving the first page is pretty fast already. Seems to me every subject in trials chat and beginners trials chat can be broken up into 2 groups. 1. Topics about parts. (inc whole bikes and clothes). 2. Topics about riding. (physically, technique, things happening on rides etc) You can literally go down all of trials chat and beginners chat and place every topic into one of these two groups. About: 48 topics would fit into 1. 10 would fit into 2. There's also a few stray topics like the tartydays which should really be in Clubs and comps*, not in trials chat, there's also a few topics such as "Did Anyone Hear From Marino Lately?" and "Glossary Of Terms" which aren't really technically in the wrong place, but they won't fit into either of the 2 categories I mentioned. So my idea would be to base 2 subforums around what I just said, have one subforum relating to physical equipment. Any question/discussion regarding bikes, parts or clothes (protective or regular) And the other would be for riding technique. The problem is there's a lot more topics about parts than riding tips, so the 2nd subforum would also allow the stray topics to be posted in there too to even the numbers out. So to sum up: One subforum solely for bikes, parts, clothing and equipment. And another for everything else, inc but not limited to riding, hints and tips. Trials politics and general discussion of the sport. *Sometimes topics like these are purposefully put into trials chat instead of news or member organised rides so they get seen by more people. Also, while I'm here. I think TF has become big enough now for a subforum solely for the function of TF. Where you'd be able to post topics like this one, people would be able to post their ideas and updates to the site could be posted there too without having everything TF related spread over all the topics (ie. there's a bunch of TF related threads in 'News', this one is in chit-chat, and there's a couple of things in website updates too so it's pretty confusing) Edited June 5, 2011 by JT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Dunstan Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Just get rid of "Beginners Trials Chat". Add a sticky that is full of advice to someone who has just started out, what to choose, where to shop and that sort of thing. You could call it the "Beginner Trials Thread" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrBENN Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 I feel that i found the forum most useful when new members could post in the Beginners section. It gave them a chance to introduce themselves and ask any questions they needed, then the members would go and help and answer them in beginners chat until they were ready for validation once they proved they could act responsible on the forum. Beginners chat and trials chat are slowly becoming the same thing now, so would it be easier just to remove one of them and just make a trials chat section and have a Q&A section thread within the trials chat so it saves making a topic just to get a question answered? But if they are going to be merged then yeah i feel it would be useful to get a Q&A thread added in the section to save topics being posted just to get a question answered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topsy Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 I feel that i found the forum most useful when new members could post in the Beginners section. It gave them a chance to introduce themselves and ask any questions they needed, then the members would go and help and answer them in beginners chat until they were ready for validation once they proved they could act responsible on the forum. Beginners chat and trials chat are slowly becoming the same thing now, so would it be easier just to remove one of them and just make a trials chat section and have a Q&A section thread within the trials chat so it saves making a topic just to get a question answered? But if they are going to be merged then yeah i feel it would be useful to get a Q&A thread added in the section to save topics being posted just to get a question answered. Something like this?: Small questions thread for bike related things too? ..... There is a bike forum too so either trials chat or there would be better. There is no need for another thread thread, I feel like they're killing the once very busy chit chat and that the need for them isn't as great as it used to be. Why not first try adding a small description line underneath the Beginners Trials Chat like the "Bike Trials Discussion" under the Trials Chat? I have no suggestion what because I can't get my thought into words well. Think that is noticeable.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrBENN Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Yeah sorry i didn't really bother reading everyone elses thoughts i just saw the topic and added my input lol Thanks for pointing it out though that its already been suggested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topsy Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 (edited) It also was in a different Topic and was stated before this one here was made Edited June 6, 2011 by Hopping_Topsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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