Houseface Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 i really like the look of them, and the paint job steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26inch Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 If those are small allen bolts on each cyclinder that let you adjust each pad seperatly they'd be rad, a magura thats easy to set up. Also it looks like there is a longer clamping area on each piston so you could run narrow rims in wide frames. Gettin spares might be interesting though and lack of olives on the hoses looks abit leaky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 As leedtrials says there a reason there is no other hydraulic rim brakes on the market. That's because Magura hold patents on nearly everything about them making it near impossible for someone elce to make one.This must mean Magura's patents have either run out or they are licensing them to deng allowing him to make them.Does anyone know the length of such patents? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 (edited) won't our cranks and feet be more likely to hit the cylenders though if they have to be further out for wider rims.and just occured, they could be bigger to accomodate a new set of frames which are even wider to take his even bigger rims when they are made, but so you can still run thinner ones still, ahhhhhhhh.fanny faceEDIT: highlight my post EDIT2: OMFG 3000th post, i have 8 boxes, luuuuuuuuush Edited December 29, 2006 by ash-kennard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 ZOO! calipers to match my frame, lever blade, bars, hubs, clamps, cranks, pads, forks AND headsets wholy shit i'm in nooby heaven! lol. think they'l make branded pedals? or tyres?whoring aside i like the look of the lever body, and the clear hosing probably good for knowing when you need a re-bleed hehe. also just noticed tf has changed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huge Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 Having the same size thread on each connecter could be a good idea for those who damage/service their brakes regularly. But even those allen bolts in the side of the callipers have been "borrowed" from magura-it looks very similair to a firmtech brake calliper indeed. hmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemteX Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 Won't take much to make a better brake than magura...I guess this will do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 oh joy. another nasty shaped lever without a hinged clamp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 IF this was to be made then i personally think its one of the most interesting thing to be produced SOLELY fro trials riding.woot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reinold Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 From the look of things, it looks like they will be a good improvement to normal maguras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 IF this was to be made then i personally think its one of the most interesting thing to be produced SOLELY fro trials riding.woot.strangely dave you have a point But i still cant shake the feeling of not trusting it. Don't know why to be honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 Does anyone know the length of such patents?Same as copyright isn't it? 10 years?IF this was to be made then i personally think its one of the most interesting thing to be produced SOLELY fro trials riding.woot. I just hope it isn't done without magura's knowledge, or there are fundemental differences so that magura can't touch it and it is actually a new design.However, with how hydraulic rim brakes work, i highly doubt its very different at all. Time will tell, one to follow though, for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJI Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 Not keen on the idea of barbed fittings all round, There a pain in the arse compared to just whacking an olive on there and doing the bolt up.Assuming the lever body gets a bit of an overhaul it should be sweet, my break system would probably become the only Deng bit on my bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxRacer Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 Some more pictures from Fox (yea!), I'm not sure who do this, but i'm 90% sure that it's not dengish stuffI'm the king of the night, am I? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 Everyones going on about it being cnc milled but im 99% sure those cylinders are cast. It would make no sense (from a manufacturers point of view) to cnc them... I may be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_Tupman Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 Very intresting!! Finally some proper newsIt's quite obviouse these are prototypes but should still be intresting to see if they go into production. The thing with patents is that you need one for almost every country or someone in that country can produce a copy well within the law and apply for the patent themselfs. Not to sure how the law stands on selling outside of the patent country into another though.Still very intresting little surprised they didn't change more but maybe they think the magura only needed refining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 Did a bit of digging and found this;http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&...6374957&F=0Thats the patent for the cylinders.http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&...9856804&F=0Thats for, as far as i can tell the way it is mounted.http://v3.espacenet.com/textdraw?DB=EPODOC...p;QPN=DE4232598Thats for the evolution mounts.There is also patents for about 4 or 5 different hydraulic brake systems. Not found lever ones, but no doubt they are.Lets hope who ever is doing these knows the legal nightmare he is getting him/herself into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe' Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 A better mounting needs to found for 4 bolts.Those split plastic washers are rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26inch Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 Looks like only the lever is cnc'd which is odd for deng but i suppose its cheaper to cast a cyclinder, hopefully all the bits will be interchangable with magura, it certianly looks like the clamps will be the same. Personnaly i reckon this is a really good thing that some one is looking as maguras nd trying to improve them, the lever certainly looks like it will be stronger and the lack of tpa is nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Limburn Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 i think they look pretty good myself. they are definately maggie mk2 though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt rushton Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 (edited) That looks like a magura lever with the new hope blade on.Looks nice. Though i think it will be abit, untill they actually go into production.Edit: As far as copywright goes. I don't think deng, will get done for making these. To me its only like what rb did isnt it?Matt Rushton Edited December 29, 2006 by matt rushton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun H Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 That looks like a magura lever with the new hope blade on.Looks nice. Though i think it will be abit, untill they actually go into production.Edit: As far as copywright goes. I don't think deng, will get done for making these. To me its only like what rb did isnt it?Matt RushtonIt's the pistons he'll get in trouble for, not the lever body/blade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 (edited) HS11 Ajustment design? Edited December 29, 2006 by JT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt rushton Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 HS11 Ajustment design? Hope ajustment design Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 Hope ajustment designThe hope ajustment dosn't technically ajust the bit point (even though it does), but is the leaver reach ajuster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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