Mark W Posted October 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 Wow, fair f**king play to Gilles! He went up in my estimation of him at Antwerp, and more so in light of that response. Good to hear an insider's POV too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 Anyone want to post Gilles' thoughts up for those not connected to him on Facebook? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsiain Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 And for those who don't speak French Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 Use Google Translate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 JD - that link Scott posted up there is the link to the same thing, I think... EDIT: All you people wanting translations - get Chrome and don't have to worry about it again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 JD - that link Scott posted up there is the link to the same thing, I think... So it was, thanks for that. Scathing stuff. Kudos to Gilles for speaking out. As the voice of "couldn't really care less about either side" though, there's nothing to substantiate either side at the moment. Got to credit Gilles' for speaking out though. I don't follow the comp scene, but all of a sudden he's become the Kimi Raikkonen of the trials world to me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoze Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 (edited) I'm only here for the LOL title. How has this been so overlooked? My sides, my f**king sides. Aaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha On a more serious note, that's a great read from giles. Fair play to him indeed! Will be very interesting to see where this all goes, i can't imagine it being as clean cut as to just be the end. Edited October 17, 2013 by Skoze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 Weeeeeell, there have been plenty of issues in the past with Koxx that would kind of back Gilles up over Dom, not to mention all the posts people have put up subsequently about not getting orders and so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Nichols Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 I heard a rumour he and Skoze had a high level management meeting over at 80psi and decided that it focussed too heavily on the street demographic, so maybe this is their new venture to try and be more 'equal opportunities'. We'll see Rumours of our involvement have been greatly exaggerated. Although there is a Gilles Coustellier edit in the pipeline... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 (edited) Aaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha lmfao as i´ve seen its possible to write outside the text box... :bow: how did you do that? Edited October 18, 2013 by FamilyBiker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsiain Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Ben Savage So will Gilles ride for Ozonys? GT? Crewkerz? Like · · Share · 42 minutes ago · 4 people like this. Owen Gwilliam Echo.. 35 minutes ago via mobile · Like · 1 Iman KamaliFar Maybe Hashtagg ! Vincent ? 33 minutes ago · Like Ben Savage It wont be Hashtagg unless Koxx pay him the money owed 28 minutes ago · Like Jack Carthy gt arnt bringing that bike out.. its juat for kenny 17 minutes ago via mobile · Like Jack Carthy and thwy owe us all prize money and bikes 14 minutes ago via mobile · Unlike · 1 Rhys Oliver who will be suppling you bikes @jack and what will they be 9 minutes ago via mobile · Like Ben Savage That's bad news jack! 6 minutes ago · Like Jack Carthy dont want to say till the deal is made an i am happy with it 2 minutes ago via mobile · Like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 C'est tout à fait normal, Mr Hermance est grillé à Taiwan. translates to This is quite normal, Mr. Hermance is blown in Taiwan this cant be right surely lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Swales Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 (edited) C'est tout à fait normal, Mr Hermance est grillé à Taiwan. translates to This is quite normal, Mr. Hermance is blown in Taiwan this cant be right surely lol That's one (hilarious) translation. What he actually means is that Dom's reputation has been seriously damaged in Taiwan (presumably because of the disputes, payment issues and debts that have been mentioned here and elsewhere): On peut également lire "qu'il est hors de question de proposer un vélo sur lequel la moitié des pièces proviennent d'un catalogue chinois". C'est tout à fait normal, Mr Hermance est grillé à Taiwan. Donc pour vous résumer, ce n'est pas Mr Hermance qui ne veut pas de pièces chinoises, mais les chinois qui ne veulent plus de lui! He also says that "it is out of the question to offer a bike on which half of the components come from a Chinese catalogue". That's completely right, Mr Hermance's reputation has been seriously damaged in Taiwan. t's not Mr Hermance that doesn't want Chinese parts, it's the Chinese that don't want him! Edited October 18, 2013 by Ben Swales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mata22 Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 seems like gilles was really suprised with all this....and for sure, he is not afraid to say how really things were.... will be interesting. also there is giacomos status on facebook supporting his brother gilles and all other riders that were not treated right. i wonder is giacomo will ride monty nex year too, because i think he sold one of his comp bikes allready Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Although there is a Gilles Coustellier edit in the pipeline... "No cash til pay day?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 No cash til pay day?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 WONGA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Tell you what, Gilles has gone up in my estimation after reading the tribalzine article. Takes some minerals for a major sports star like him to publicly slate a company director, and accuse him of scamming. Good lad. Sometimes things need to be said 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyBiker Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 (edited) someone burnt some hash,and then he went tagging after that,he tried to make a "koxx" throwup on a wall and accidently overlapped the "X´s" corelated paint joke: tell me theres no "#" in there i´d laugh a lung out if it comes out that i am right with my story haha Edited October 18, 2013 by FamilyBiker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusevelt Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 http://tribalzine.com/?Gilles-Coustellier-talks-about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Quite a leading intro on that Tribalzine piece, but yeah, slightly old news (it got posted earlier in the topic). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Only just got round to reading Gilles' letter and to be fair he sounds a bit like a whiney school girl to me, though part of that is probably in the translation and edit. Having said that it was obvious that Dom isn't a total fool and would fold Koxx in order to start Koxx^2 (or hashtagg) afresh. It's what failing businesses do the world over... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 In fairness to Gilles, people bought the shit out of whatever he used so he obviously brought Koxx a lot of custom. If he's owed win bonuses, parts, travel expenses and so on despite having represented the company that well to it's target audience, I think it's fair enough to get a bit shitty especially when your sponsor of over a decade isn't being completely honest with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Which is fair enough but there's being professional about it putting the point across while maintaining dignity and there's whining like a school girl! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 He's lost out on a fair chunk or his income, I know if work didn't pay me I'd more that pissed off. And I expect you would be too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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